After nearly a quarter century at the American Diabetes Association, Dr. Richard Kahn, chief scientific and medical officer, is retiring at the end of June.
During the more than ten years I covered diabetes for USA Today, I regularly called on Dr. Kahn -- to pick his great brain, to seek his opinion on the latest diabetes news and to ask him to put new research into perspective. Always, he spoke his mind and I knew that with Dr. Kahn, what he said was exactly what he believed. That quality of forthright outspokenness has gotten him into trouble, but it has earned the respect and admiration of many, me included. So, here, in what may be our last on-the-record interview, Dr. Kahn reminisced about his time at ADA and revealed his plans for the future. As always, he spoke his mind and was very entertaining:
Q. Are you really retiring or just switching careers?
Kahn: I don't have any work plans at all. Oh, I wouldn't mind bringing in some lunch money, consulting maybe. That would fuel my collecting of things. I'm a sick pathological collector and everything I collect comes with books, magazines, conventions. I've not been able to get to them.
Q. What do you collect?
Kahn: Turned wood. Glass. Oriental rugs. Lithographs from the '30s and '40s. Bonsai trees. Watches. Pens. Old maps of America.
Q. Any other plans in mind?
Kahn: In the Washington area there are more than a dozen Smithsonian museums. I would like to have one day a week as "museum day'' and attend all the lectures. ..(Also) I was a cook in the Army and I want to go back to cooking dinner five nights a week, a different recipe each time. ..And have time to attend my kids' sporting events and concerts... And I've gotten interested in handyman-ing and a neighbor is going to teach me woodworking.
Q. Is there more?
Kahn: I'm really interested in writing a book.
Q. So, no rocking chair for you. Let's talk about the ADA. What were the Scientific Sessions like when you started to work there?
Kahn: I didn't think it was very impressive, though I think people who went to the meeting thought it was. There were four symposia as opposed to 35 (now); 15 invited speakers as opposed to 180; 2,000 attendees versus 20,000. It was just a fraction of what we have now.
Q. And it was you who helped develop and expand the Scientific Sessions, isn't that right?
Kahn: I think I did. I thought of ideas and the committees agreed, but we couldn't have done it without a lot of volunteers, they were essential.
Q. How did the Scientific Sessions evolve over the years?
Kahn: We tried some things that had never been done, and some of them stuck.
Q. Like what?
Kahn: We had discussions sessions - now lots of meetings have them, where you have controversies and people debate. We had receptions for posters where people were encouraged to have social (time). We have tracks, where people can stay with a particular topic through the whole meeting. All the different kinds of symposia and topics -- we bring in people from outside the field of diabetes (to show) how their work could apply to ours.
Q. Did you have something to do with ADA's practice of recommending clinical guidelines?
Kahn: I started them in 1988. We got a lot of hate mail. People said we shouldn't be doing this and Richard should be fired. We started the concept of performance measures. We started consensus conferences, clinical conferences ...
Q. Who was setting guidelines before ADA?
Kahn: No one. I said if we're going to be the authoritative voice and lead the world in diabetes, why don't we offer advice on how you define quality care? What would ideal care be like? It translates into ADA standards for the medical care of people with diabetes. But there was a huge controversy. It was initially rejected by the leadership of the organization. We just came back the next year and said this is a role for ADA. This determination has contributed to progress made by the ADA, so (now) ADA has set the standard and is the leader in diabetes in the world.
Q. Were there other roadblocks along the way?
Kahn: Almost every single new thing we tried was vetoed by some authoritative body in ADA saying we shouldn't do that. ... That carries over to today. But it's just the nature of mankind. Change can be difficult. You try to institute something new and there are always people opposed to it - and they're more vehement than the people who support it. It's very challenging and people know that I love a challenge.
Q. Would your road have been smoother if you hadn't tried to plow new ground all the time?
Kahn: It's always been in my nature to love to do things that are new. I just like it, I don't think of it consciously. I'm not good at maintenance.
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At the awards ceremony today, Dr. Kahn was presented with the Charles H. Best Medal for Distinguished Service.